There's a time and place for Gladue. Gladue considerations do make sense. I support Gladue considerations for the offences that are lower in nature. But when we're talking about using firearms in the commission of an offence, the trafficking of drugs, the importation of drugs or the production of drugs that impact communities, those are crimes for which it makes no sense to apply Gladue, especially when the victims are indigenous as well.
So there is a time and place for Gladue, but for the offences that are suggested to have the minimums removed, it makes no sense.