I would honestly recommend using the.... I shouldn't, but because of the work I've done—I've worked with self-governing communities—I just think they have momentum to build new processes and systems and to address their issues. They often have the revenue as well. I think if you wanted to pilot them or something, it might be through some of those communities that really have their political house in order, as I always say, and have self-government.
On May 6th, 2022. See this statement in context.