It's good to see you as well, Mr. Brock.
It's going to have an effect here because 99% of the time the victims as well as the offenders are from the Six Nations of the Grand River territory. It's a small community, with a lot of families intermixed by relationships, and in my experience here when people receive conditional sentences, a lot of times these are breached like Penny referred to.
There's breach of probation, and breach of any recognizances, or form 11s now from Justice. It's going to have an effect that we're going to be continuously dealing with these people. In my experience, people reoffend quite often here, and if there's a conditional sentence, that really doesn't do much as far as a deterrent for them is concerned, because even if they have family members, if the person is breaching they will not call the police to report anything. Then the victims feel basically that they are left out with no one on their side.
I know Penny has testified to that. I see that quite often because the first brunt of who hears the complaints of all the people is the police here. We take a lot of heat over that. Then we explain that it's not our call, that we have done what we need to do. The courts do their thing in the process and the sentences are handed down, but it's not anywhere near satisfactory to the victims. That's how I look at it, that we're here to help this community.