I would encourage members of this committee or Canadians who are following this to watch, if they haven't done so, the feature interview with Justice Mahmud Jamal in late June that was on CTV. I expect it's easy to find on the Internet.
Beyond the formal steps that we identify, such as the Supreme Court of Canada sitting, as it will in mid-September in Quebec City, to get out more, I think every one of us here today might, between now and the end of September, pick up the phone and call someone who might someday be thinking about this or be ready to start thinking. Go for a walk on the beach or have a cup of coffee or go for a walk in the snow. That's exactly what is involved in building the culture of encouragement that I spoke about.
I think it's very similar to the encouragement that many of you go through to become members of Parliament. You have to think a little bit ahead, what's involved, how you get the people around you prepared, and actually how you start looking at what's involved in filling out the application, which is no small piece of work.