If I'm to be very honest, I think it's ridiculous.
We actually did a lot of work with the National Judicial Institute to develop training for candidate judges around this issue of gender-based violence and racism. There were a lot of negotiations back and forth between us and Justice Adèle Kent, who is a former executive director there, before we finally managed to land on, I think it was, a two-hour training that was recorded. That same complaint around interference was raised numerous times.
There is a difference between interference and getting yourself educated about the reality of the society in which you live. There is a difference between interference and having you understand that people have biases and blinkers that are influencing the way they are meting out justice in the courtroom. Trying to get people to that level of understanding is not about interference. It's about uplifting and educating.