I simply rely on the fact that, in Ontario, almost 77%, I believe, of the people who are in our provincial jails have not yet been convicted of any crime. They're people who either are waiting for bail hearings or have been denied bail.
Throughout Canada, that number is a little lower, but still it's close to 70%. I can tell you from years of on-the-ground experience.... I mean, I appreciate some of the statistics that have been cited by police forces throughout this committee, which seem to suggest something different, but that is not my experience and it's not the experience of most of our members.
People facing allegations of violating their bail and having committed another serious crime while on bail for a serious crime have a real uphill battle to obtain bail. We tend to overcondition. We have something in the range of eight conditions on average that we impose on an individual when he or she is granted bail. We overuse sureties—although they don't in Saskatchewan. You may ask the attorney general who's testifying after me about how they're so successful in avoiding that.
Generally speaking, we make it very difficult for people to get bail, notwithstanding some of the public dialogue on the subject.