My understanding is that it's both. There are figures that.... Again, I believe Dr. Myers, who testified, had figures for you in this regard. Certainly, in my experience and in the cases I've done....
The Balfour and Young case is one I litigated in northern Manitoba. It dealt with mostly aboriginal defendants and was a very shocking and eye-opening experience regarding bail challenges. It was specifically about bail. I should say that was a situation where everybody in the system was doing their utmost, working very hard and in absolute good faith. However, there was such a significant under-resourcing issue that the impact, the inability to receive timely justice, mostly for indigenous accused, was felt throughout the community in a very disproportionate way.