I think that what we didn't want to do was to say an owner.... Let's say that the owner is a company, and they just hire people to do the work. They have clear guidelines, but they don't do the day-to-day care, and this person who is managing it is falling by the wayside. We didn't want to reach out and say, just because you own it, you're responsible; it would have to be the person doing the work and the day-to-day care and management who we're trying to get after.
On May 8th, 2023. See this statement in context.