What we heard throughout the pandemic was that the for-profit homes were even more restrictive with regard to PPE, for example. That's when you saw the stories of PPE behind locked doors, because it was all addressed to an N95 respirator being a lot more expensive than a paper mask. Those are the areas where we saw.... Unions like SEIU did extended studies, and I encourage the committee to have them do a presentation comparing the for-profit to the not-for-profit.
The not-for-profit and the municipality-run or the religious-run are really based on community and are looking out for the care of seniors, compared to the for-profit, which of course says what they are. As I said in my statement, these studies showed a higher level of deaths there.
You're right, MP Garrison, that we had the worst experience of any developed country in the world, and that was due to our long-term care, which is why everyone is studying it now.