Thank you for the question.
What we're working with is a death rate in for-profit homes that is twice as high as the other nursing homes that we see. I mentioned 17% higher in my presentation. Those are the numbers we're working with.
We're hearing from those working at the base that there's a complete difference between a private, for-profit long-term care compared to a community-based or religious-based nursing home.
We are recommending, when we're talking to provincial governments, that you can have a private nursing home, but the for-profits should never come into effect for the care of either children or elders, similar to our public health care system. That is always where the debate is. When we enter negotiations with a for-profit, it's a different language than it is with our community-based homes.