Mr. Matthew Taylor (General Counsel and Director, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice) at the Justice and Human Rights Committee

It's as you wish. Perhaps I can just very quickly confirm what the minister said.

Paragraph 742.1(b) is the rule that says if an offence is subject to a mandatory minimum penalty, it is not eligible for a conditional sentence, and in section 151, which Mr. Caputo referenced, it's punishable by mandatory minimum penalties.