Madam Chair, on that point, to be 100% clear—and I don't want Mr. Van Popta to lose his train of thought or his spot; he might even want to back up a few steps—my understanding is that Mr. Van Popta was quoting a former prime minister, the Right Honourable Brian Mulroney. In my mind, this ties back directly to clause 2, which says, “this section applies to the release or detention of that person — as though that person were an appellant in an appeal described in paragraph (1)(a) — pending the completion of the review, pending a new trial”.
We're talking about the wrongfully convicted or a situation where there's a miscarriage of justice. Mr. Van Popta is speaking very clearly and solely on those issues. The issues that he's raising relate directly to clause 2 of Bill C-40, which involves the custody of an individual who has made an application under these provisions.
Bill C-40 has not come into effect. We don't know the outcome of these deliberations that we're having. There are several amendments that we're going to get to on Bill C-40, some by the NDP, some by the government and one by us. The Conservatives have moved one amendment.
However, this goes to the core of what we're talking about here. I want to be very—