The point was made in error. There are two errors.
One is that what Mr. Van Popta was saying wasn't relevant when it is 100% relevant.
The second is that he was quoting the Milgaard family, when, in fact, he was quoting, if we had listened carefully, which I was endeavouring to do.... I believe he was quoting former prime minister Mulroney. I stand to be corrected—and I would ask Mr. Van Popta to clarify—but I understand that he was quoting Mr. Mulroney, the impression that he had upon meeting the mother of someone who was wrongfully convicted, a mother who had been advocating for her son for 22 years.
It's on that point of order, Madam Chair.