Justice Committee on March 11th, 2026

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

No. I've just ruled on it.

[Andrew Lawton, Conservative, Elgin—St. Thomas—London South, ON]

I challenge the chair.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

Hold on one second. Before the challenge, can we—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

No. Mr. Baber, it's very clear. There is no debate. There are no submissions. We're voting today.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

This is a point of privilege, not debate.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Okay, I've heard your point. You can raise your point of privilege. You do not get to make submissions on it. You do not get to make arguments on it. If you want to challenge my ruling, so be it.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

There was a challenge to it.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

Chair, can you please look at the text and consider—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

I have looked at the text. I was in the House yesterday, and the day before.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

The text doesn't deal with subamendments. It talks about no debate on existing subamendments.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Baber, that's the end of the discussion.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

I'm not sure why you're denying me a fair point of privilege when I'm looking to interpret the order of the House.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Clerk, please go ahead.

(Ruling of the chair sustained: yeas 5; nays 4)

Thank you.

We go back to new clause 11.1 and the subamendment by Mr. Lawton.

(Subamendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Thank you.

Next is LIB-6.

(Amendment agreed to: yeas 5; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

(On clause 4)

We're now on Mr. Brock's subamendment to Mr. Lawton's amendment, which is CPC-8.1.

(Subamendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we're voting on CPC-8.1.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

I just want to check where we're at, because we moved forward, and now we're moving back. Could you kindly let us know what page we're on, please?

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

It's CPC-8.1

(Amendment negatived: nays 5; yeas 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Now we're moving on to LIB-4.

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

I had withdrawn LIB‑4. LIB‑4 is identical to CPC‑9, and in our earlier discussions, I thought we had all agreed on CPC‑10. We haven't voted on it yet, but anyway, if I can withdraw it, I'll withdraw it. Otherwise, I'll vote against my own amendment, because I agreed with the wording in Mr. Baber's.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

In that case, are you withdrawing LIB‑4?

[Anthony Housefather, Liberal, Mount Royal, QC]

Yes, I am, because I agreed with you on CPC‑10, which is your wording.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

LIB‑4 is being withdrawn.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

That is correct. Thank you.

[Patricia Lattanzio, Liberal, Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC]

Mr. Chair, I remember clearly that it was pulled out.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

All right. Thank you, Mr. Housefather.

Now we're on CPC‑9.

[Roman Baber, Conservative, York Centre, ON]

That one, I believe, has been withdrawn.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I'm prepared to withdraw that, Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

It has been withdrawn.

Thank you, Mr. Brock.

Mr. Fortin, go ahead.