Evidence of meeting #27 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was ruling.
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Senior General Counsel and Director General, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
It would restore the MMP, because of the rules of stare decisis.
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
According to your view, the one-year MMP for accessing or possessing child pornography will be restored if Bill C-16 is passed by Parliament.
Senior General Counsel and Director General, Criminal Law Policy Section, Department of Justice
That's correct.
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
If you are correct, then every single CPC amendment that was brought forward and ruled by the chair as being out of scope would be in order. Those amendments sought to clarify the uncertainty that we're having now.
I'm not sure I agree with you. I think that we're living in a vacuum right now.
Liberal
Iqra Khalid Liberal Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON
On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I'm just wondering about the relevance of what Mr. Baber is talking about, whether it's relevant to exactly the amendment that we're talking about.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
It's a fair point, Ms. Khalid.
Mr. Baber, you have the answer to your question. You don't like it, so you're pursuing.... This isn't a cross-examination. The witnesses are here to provide technical answers to questions. You're not here to argue with them.
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
That's fine. I can have a learned discussion with the officials. I actually think that this is an interesting theoretical. This is a discussion that's going to be had....
I see my Liberal colleagues on this committee are laughing again. Mr. Taylor and I have had—
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
Hold on.
Mr. Baber, don't do that again. You have no idea what's going on at the other side of the table. You're welcome to—
Liberal
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
It's not only that, but we're talking about [Inaudible—Editor]
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
Mr. Baber, stop talking right now, please. Ask your questions. Get your answers. We're not here to have an intellectual debate.
Liberal
Liberal
Anju Dhillon Liberal Dorval—Lachine—LaSalle, QC
Mr. Chair, this needs to stop. It's happened so many times before. It's intolerable to make accusations. We're all sitting here with straight faces. Everybody is off camera, and the person on camera cannot just make things up and report them to committee and the public.
Thank you very much.
Liberal
Conservative
Liberal
The Chair Liberal James Maloney
It's one person at a time, Mr. Baber.
Ms. Dhillon, are you finished?
Conservative
Roman Baber Conservative York Centre, ON
I am free to continue to speak. I'm free to continue to characterize my friends' behaviour on the other side as laughter. It's basic privilege.
Liberal
Conservative