Justice Committee on May 4th, 2026

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Mr. Brock, just bear with me for a second.

I think that's a fair point of order. I mean, we do need to find some—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Yes. I'm going to get there.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

—tangential connection sooner rather than later.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I'm going to get there.

I know, Chair, that you and I have bantered back and forth. You'd ask me to point out that particular judge or I'd comment to you that relevancy often has a subjective element to it, and you always call me out on that.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Yes, otherwise there would be no such thing as relevance, other than in the eye of the beholder.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I find it rather rich that Ms. Gladu would now be raising that as a point of order when, just a few months ago, she'd be in this chair—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Okay, Mr. Brock, look—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

—doing the very same thing that I'm doing.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

You and I have also discussed, as have other members of this committee, that we have a cordial relationship around this table. Casting aspersions and this type of conduct do not help to maintain that. If we can focus on the issues, I would be grateful.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I'll get to relevancy.

Again, I talked about the purpose of committees. I talked about what we as opposition members have tried to do over the last two weeks, and the Liberal government plays games and shuts down any attempt to get to the truth. Here is a wonderful opportunity to really provide some teeth and some backbone to Mark Carney's assertion that this is a new Liberal government that is willing to collaborate and willing to listen to good ideas.

The whole purpose of committee work is to improve on legislation, proposed legislation. I raised this to you, Mr. Chair, I believe last Wednesday, when I commented on literally the—

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Ms. Khalid has a point of order.

[Iqra Khalid, Liberal, Mississauga—Erin Mills, ON]

Thank you.

Again, Chair, I really think relevance is important. We've had a really wonderful discussion throughout the day and we have collaborated. I would really hope we can....

The elephant has passed through the room. The tail has left. Let's finish it off.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Thanks. We have—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

No, I still see that elephant and I'm within touching—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

We are pushing on eight hours, Ms. Khalid.

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

Do you know what is relevant? They read a report at the fisheries committee for hours—

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

You don't have the floor, Mr. Mantle. If you would show some—

[Jacob Mantle, Conservative, York—Durham, ON]

Okay, I'll wait until my intervention.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

—respect to the process and the chair, I'd be grateful. Thank you.

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

I'm trying to explain relevancy. Ms. Khalid enjoys the opportunity to disrupt my train of thought, but nevertheless, it failed again.

[Marilyn Gladu, Liberal, Sarnia—Lambton—Bkejwanong, ON]

I have a point of order.

[The Chair, Liberal, James Maloney]

Go ahead, Ms. Gladu.

[Marilyn Gladu, Liberal, Sarnia—Lambton—Bkejwanong, ON]

Once again, casting aspersions on members of this committee is unhelpful, and I think the members opposite are just obstructing, trying to waste time instead of—

[Larry Brock, Conservative, Brantford—Brant South—Six Nations, ON]

Wow.