Evidence of meeting #35 for Justice and Human Rights in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was nurse.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Scarpellini  Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking
Ali  Executive Director, The Go-Give Project

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, The Go-Give Project

Evie Ali

Absolutely. The victim should always remain the priority.

However, when we started to really dive into things and look at the number of victims accessing the restitutions available to them versus what is actually available, we noticed that a very small number are equipped to access or navigate the steps. Some just aren't aware that those steps are even available to them.

It's always important to keep the victim on the front line. This bill simply recognizes that agencies are also absorbing costs.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Thank you, Ms. Ali.

11:25 a.m.

Executive Director, The Go-Give Project

Evie Ali

Again, we're not a legal agency, so I can't speak to the legal framework of this. I can only speak to what we experience.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Thank you, Ms. Ali.

Ms. Scarpellini, I have the same question for you.

How do you think the requests of victims should be aligned with those of organizations?

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

Could you repeat the question?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I was saying that, currently, victims can receive restitution when their offender is convicted. The bill would add restitution to organizations.

How do you think the requests of victims should be aligned with those of organizations?

Is there an order of priority?

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Okay.

I'll move on to another question.

Which province do you work in?

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

I work in Ontario.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Do you receive subsidies from the Ontario provincial government or the Canadian government?

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

We receive funding from the Canadian government, but just for one-year projects.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

You know that, at present, there are what are called “surcharges” that are imposed when someone has a conviction. The proceeds from the surcharges are used by the government precisely to fund the activities of organizations that help victims.

How do you see that?

In your opinion, are the surcharges not high enough? Here, we're multiplying the categories.

How do you see the situation in that regard?

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

May I answer in English?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Yes, of course.

11:25 a.m.

Founder, Angels of Hope Against Human Trafficking

Cristina Scarpellini

Okay.

Excuse me, my earpiece isn't working properly.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Madam Chair, could we suspend the meeting to allow the witness to resolve her earpiece issue?

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Absolutely.

Could I ask IT about any challenges, please?

In the meantime, Monsieur Fortin, do you have questions for other witnesses? Maybe we can come back to this question for this witness once we figure out the IT.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

Yes, I'll continue with Ms. Ali. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Ms. Ali, do you see the issue on your end?

Do you receive funding under the surcharge program?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, The Go-Give Project

Evie Ali

We do not.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I would also like to discuss another topic with you.

Would it be fair to say that the most important thing for victims, for your clientele, is to have a trial that takes place within a reasonably short time frame and that is also concluded within a reasonable period of time?

11:30 a.m.

Executive Director, The Go-Give Project

Evie Ali

I think that would be presumptuous for us to assume for everybody. I don't think I have an appropriate answer. That's out of my scope.

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I would also have asked Ms. Scarpellini that question.

Those are the issues I wanted to address, Madam Chair. I'd like to come back to Ms. Scarpellini once her microphone is working again.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

Perhaps Ms. Scarpellini can answer the question in writing to the committee.

Would that be something that you'd be comfortable with, Monsieur Fortin?

Rhéal Fortin Bloc Rivière-du-Nord, QC

I might be comfortable with that, Madam Chair.

The only issue is that, as you know, we'll be doing clause-by-clause in half an hour. I don't see how a written answer that I will clearly receive at some later date—this week or next week—will be of any use to me. It will therefore be too late.

The Chair Liberal Iqra Khalid

I understand.

Ms. Scarpellini, can you try to answer now? Is your sound a little better?