Evidence of meeting #1 for Medical Assistance in Dying in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was subcommittee.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Joint Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Mireille Aubé
Pierre Dalphond  Senator, Quebec (De Lorimier), PSG
Joint Co-Chair  Hon. Yonah Martin (British Columbia, C)
Stan Kutcher  Senator, Nova Scotia, ISG
Joint Chair  Hon. Yonah Martin
Pamela Wallin  Senator, Saskatchewan, CSG
Julia Nicol  Committee Researcher
Marlisa Tiedemann  Committee Researcher
Marie-Françoise Mégie  Senator, Quebec (Rougemont), ISG

2 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Before arriving at today's meeting, I was told that the whips had discussed things and agreed that there would be a three-hour meeting next Wednesday. That's the first thing.

Also, I went through the exercise of figuring out what time slots we had left between now and June 23 to fulfil our mandate, which is considerable. I'm trying to look realistically at the work plan that we can put in place based on the timetable. Next week we will have a three-hour meeting. Actually, I'm not going to look at the number of hours, but rather focus on the number of weeks we have ahead of us. If I count the next two weeks of parliamentary recess, I see that we have seven weeks before we have to start drafting the report. Indeed, it is not too much to think that we will have to spend two weeks drafting the report and then another two weeks studying the report. That already brings us to June 23.

In essence, if we count the next two weeks of parliamentary recess, we have seven weeks left to complete our mandate, which, according to the motion, is to examine the issue of mature minors, the issue of advance directives, the issue of mental illness, the status of palliative care in Canada, and the issue of protecting Canadians with disabilities.

We have agreed to table the report on June 23. However, I would like to bring to your attention the fact that in Quebec, it took 74 appearances, 39 working sessions and 46 steering committee meetings to review the Act Respecting End-of-Life Care. We did a serious job, which we can, of course, draw on. However, if we really want to deal with these issues before June 23 and prepare a solid report, it seems to me that we must meet quickly. I thought that today, after adopting the housekeeping motions, under motion 3 we could convene the subcommittee to establish the work plan. I don't want to lecture anyone, but it would be the responsible approach.

I repeat that we are sitting next Wednesday. So the steering committee could meet today or Monday. We still need to call the witnesses, and we shouldn't do that at the last minute.

As far as the work plan is concerned, I humbly think that we should follow the wording of the motion. It would be interesting to deal with the issue of mature minors next Wednesday during the three-hour meeting. If we agree to do that, witnesses could be called right away for next Wednesday.

There are other suggestions I would like to make, but I will stop here, to facilitate the understanding of the proposal and the debate. I also don't want to take up all of the committee's time.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Thank you.

Senator Kutcher—

2:05 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC

You will understand that I am making this a motion. I move that we meet as a subcommittee to discuss the work plan right away, with the aim of being able to have a three-hour session next Wednesday.

This is the motion I submit to your attention.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Okay.

As I understand it, Monsieur Thériault has put forward a motion at this time, so I'm sorry, Senator Kutcher. I will need to address this motion.

Am I correct, Mr. Thériault, that your motion is asking for us to meet today as a subcommittee, following today's full committee meeting?

2:05 p.m.

Bloc

Luc Thériault Bloc Montcalm, QC

Yes. This is in order to be able to hold a three-hour meeting next Wednesday from 2:30 to 5:30, as the whips have agreed to do.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Okay. I'm not sure whether, at this time, in terms of timing for this committee and what will happen....

We have concluded our main motion, so this is what I'm wondering. Before voting on or continuing to discuss Monsieur Thériault's motion, could we conclude this meeting and go in camera to maybe continue our discussion that way? Is that agreeable to everyone, that we conclude this meeting and go in camera?

I see one thumbs-up.

Seeing no other objections, as joint chair I will officially conclude today's meeting and we will go in camera. We'll need about one minute to do that.

Thank you, colleagues—

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Just before we go, Madam Joint Chair, do we have the link for the in camera session?

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

I think that's why we'll need one minute. It's so that we can go to an in camera meeting.

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Yes, but somebody has to provide us the link for it.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

I'm assuming that will be forthcoming.

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Joint Chair Liberal Marc Garneau

Me too, hopefully.

Thank you.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Can our clerks confirm that we will receive a new link, or do we continue at this link?

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Clerk Ms. Mireille Aubé

No, Senator Martin, we will need to suspend momentarily. A new link will be sent to all members in the next few minutes.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

Thank you, Mireille.

We will suspend and receive a new link.

Dr. Fry, did you want to say something?

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Yes. It's just a question of clarification.

When we come back in camera, will that be the subcommittee or the full committee? I don't know for sure what we're doing.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

It will be the full committee to discuss Monsieur Thériault's motion and what he has proposed to us.

2:05 p.m.

Liberal

Hedy Fry Liberal Vancouver Centre, BC

Okay. Good.

2:05 p.m.

The Joint Chair Hon. Yonah Martin

We will suspend and receive a new link.

Thank you.

[Proceedings continue in camera]