The most direct way I can answer that, Ms. Black, is to say that we are very much engaged in direct discussions with them. I spoke directly with their President. I know that our Prime Minister had a number of contacts directly with President Musharraf, including a visit to Pakistan, as has our defence minister when he visited that country.
They are very aware. The pressure, of course, is not only coming from Canada. The NATO summit in Riga that will take place next week will very much be focused on many of these same issues directly and keeping up a unified approach by the NATO countries and others. There are a number of NATO countries, we can't forget, that are also in Pakistan, like Croatia, whose foreign minister was here this week. There's a large conglomeration of communities, if I can put it that way, that are zeroing in on what has been, in my view, perhaps the most unpredictable and difficult challenge for all of us in Afghanistan, and that is, cutting off the source of the people, the violence, and the drug trade as well--a source of extreme tension between these two countries.
There's an obvious dynamic that I think is apparent to all between President Karzai and President Musharraf. That is also a factor. That human dynamic of trust and cooperation needs to be enhanced as well, if I can put it that way. There's no magic way to do that other than to try to do what in fact the President of the United States did, and that was to have the two individuals sit down and discuss some of these issues themselves directly. We cannot forget the responsibility of the Afghan government in all of this as well as the Pakistanis. They have to be prepared to do more themselves, and on that border it is an enormous challenge.