Thanks for that question. It's very interesting.
First of all, I'd like to clarify that the 40% in administration—of which I, of course, am one—are uniformed physicians; the 40% is not the overall percentage of physicians providing care to members of the Canadian Forces. So when you look at whom you can replace with a civilian, you can't really replace the more senior people. All of the people in these supervisory roles are uniformed providers: the lieutenant-colonels and colonels, all of whom count toward that 40%. Also, my public health experts, my occupational health experts, and the people who review recruits' medical files to see if the recruits are fit to come into the forces, are counted as administrative positions, but those jobs can only be done by physicians.
Regarding the management side, we've had a tremendous improvement in the professionals. We do have a separate occupation, as health care administration is a separate occupation. It feeds into another classification, known as health services operations officers. General Mathieu was the first person to start as a health care administrator and then command the system. We are fully part of the Canadian College of Health Service Executives. We participate in their professional development programs. We encourage the attainment of certified health executive designation through the college to improve our baseline level of health care management and capability.
We can still do better, but compared with the situation when I first joined, when, to be honest, a health care administrator was somebody who wanted to be a pilot and failed, or who wanted to be an infantryman and was hurt and couldn't be an infantryman any more, we have come light years from those days.