The whole issue of IRBs is interesting, because here I have Canada's defence industry. The number one recommendation talks about the government leveraging IRBs. I listen to Minister Clement talking about the history of IRBs and the importance of IRBs. One can argue that a lot of our aerospace sector was developed on IRBs, so just because it's not structured into this program, that is not necessarily a bad thing. I don't buy the argument that it serves us well historically but now it's just not serving our purpose.
I've managed to work most of the questions I wanted to raise in some of the other questions that went around. There's no question. Depending on how you ask the questions to Industry Canada, you're going to get an appropriate response, based on your question.
I would suggest that if the taxpayer was offered $16 billion, clean, worth of government procurement or the opportunity to bid on $12 billion—the opportunity to bid—I think the Canadian taxpayer would take the $16 billion.