Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you all for being here today.
I think there's only one person at the table who has military experience, and the rest of us have to try to imagine what the experience is, knowing there can very well be special circumstances, special considerations. All of us come from certain fields where those fields only work if people really understand the special nature of what it is we're doing. We have all had experiences of saying to others, often in our own self-interested ways, that they don't understand, that they don't get it, that the way things work in real life in this area is different, so we need special rules, whether it's in law or medicine or sports or lots of different fields.
We grapple with it when we are dealing with these kinds of questions. We want for you to have those authorities and those rights to do what you need to do. At the same time, we also want to provide the kinds of protections that every citizen should have. It's a struggle. We have heard from different witnesses, and often witnesses who have military backgrounds argue different points in all of that.
We get to questions in the grievance area and in others. We had a very good debate in the last session between the primacy of the charter of rights as opposed to the charter of rights in very special circumstances. How do you understand that? How do you approach those very basic questions that really underlie any of the recommendations any of us might make?