To go to the other part of your question, if I may, NATO still thinks of itself in a Cold War model—state-to-state conflicts. That's what it was set up for, and I think that's still largely the mindset.
The comments by a Lithuanian foreign minister that my colleague mentioned suggest that some members of NATO think that way. I would add that some members of NATO are probably right to think that way. If I lived in Lithuania, I'd take that view very strongly.
Some things don't change. But the technologies of warfare will maybe change dramatically. We're talking about cyberwar now. There's an area where NATO, in its own interest, and all of us members of NATO in our own interests, must pay much closer attention. It's clear that this is a weapon that can be used with extraordinary consequences on civil society, let alone military society.
Before we came into session, I was talking with Professor Regehr about the F-35 and the fact that the Chinese have apparently already stolen much of the technology that's gone into that.