I agree that jointness is important.
I'm just going to say something that everybody on this committee knows so well, but I think it's important to remember. That is, inside NORAD there's a kind of cooperation in the offices on the watch that is unparalleled, as far as I know, between any two sovereign independent nations in the world. That's an extraordinary standard. The problem is to then try to translate some of that into other areas.
I would say that one thing we can do is help our friends inside NATO move in the same kind of direction so that the burden isn't just on Canada or on the United States in various interventions and so on. Now is a good time for this because the Europeans are beginning to see how much they've fallen behind in terms of their capabilities relative to some very real threats very close to them. If we can help them with interoperability, to use that famous word, we ourselves will in fact benefit from this.
I think NATO is really in need of some reinvigoration at this point.