Dr. Doran, I saved the really tough question for you.
A number of my colleagues and I were in The Hague at a NATO parliamentary conference. Its being hosted in The Hague, we had an admiral describe procurement there. They've seized upon what they refer to as the triple helix model. It's full cooperation between government, defence, and security-related industries and research, the knowledge institutions. What they do is assess and stay ahead of the emerging threats, especially asymmetric threats, which are not bound by international law the way we are.
Do you see that sort of cooperation happening among the Canadian institutions, wherein we're all working together in sync, or are we operating in silos: educational institutions, the defence industry, and government?