And he served in Afghanistan. That is true. He did.
Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, let's continue on in this talk. You talked about jointness, about having more collaboration and cooperation between Canada and the United States, especially in the realm of national defence and national security.
As you know, we've had one organization around even longer than NORAD, which is the Permanent Joint Board on Defence. They're meeting next week here in Ottawa. I'm hoping to be able to address them, unless votes on Monday night hold us in the chamber too long.
Can that organization be improved on? What other organizations or relationships are we talking about?
Professor Sands, in your opening comments you referred to having more jointness.