Let me ask another question.
When you have volunteer firefighters and regular firefighters, there's always a tension between them and sometimes there's competition. The regular force feels as though the volunteer force is stepping on its toes. I come from an amalgamated city in which we needed to amalgamate volunteer and full-time volunteer firefighters, and it's a very challenging process.
Does the same thing happen? Do you detect the same thing? Does that play into it at all?