To go back to Sven's comment about this being briefed in private. Remember that we were briefed before the report was made public. The ombudsman wanted to make sure all of us on the committee from all parties were aware of his report and the recommendations that were in it, as well as the proposed legislation. That's why we received private briefings.
Now is the time to talk about this in a public format. Let's leave it at this: we can take out the term “in camera” and leave it at the discretion of the chair to talk to the ombudsman. If the ombudsman wants to do a public meeting, then let's do the public meeting. If the ombudsman is requesting that we do it in camera, then we'll do it in camera. Let's leave it up to the witness, rather than sitting here debating and playing politics.