That's a very good question.
I think this gets back a little bit to the legacy and just trying to get people's heads around what it means to be a civilian minister of defence. A number of wonderful countries have examples of military people becoming ministers of defence, so we know it can be done and can be done successfully.
One of the keys, I think, is that you have the governance around you. You have the institutions, the habits, the practices, and the transparency. The accountability is clear. You know what your responsibility is in your role.
A lot of that is still lacking in the Ukrainian system, particularly with the ministry of defence, where the civilian side is very underdeveloped and the general staff side is very highly developed.
Again, it's legacy. We have to help them understand that it isn't just about taking off a uniform and putting on a skirt or a suit.