In the minds of the Canadian training mission, absolutely. Again, leading by example, so having women on our teams—women mentors, women trainers—is part of the cultural legacy. There are women within the Ukrainian military. They tend to be in the traditional services.
We all speak with the chief of the general staff and with the minister about how it actually is possible to have women doing absolutely everything. This is going to take time. They have said that they're open to this. I know that when President Poroshenko was here, he spoke about how he welcomed Canada's kind of feminist foreign policy and saw the role for women. Again, if you look at the civil society activists that made everything possible at the time of Maidan, women were present everywhere.
In the volunteer organizations, including within the defence ministry—the reform office that is staffed by volunteers embedded in the defence ministry—many, many women are sitting at the tables with the chief of the general staff saying, “This is how you have to reform your medical system; this is what you need to do as logistics.”
It's a work in progress.