Okay. It's a little bit beyond my remit. It's simply as somebody who goes back and forth and keeps her eyes open a little bit.
Russia uses every available...it doesn't matter what. It could be by post. They use everything. The Ukraine government is conscious and Ukrainians are conscious, I think, to a certain extent that this permeates their environment. It may be subtle in some places and it may be more obvious in others.
What can Canada do to help Ukraine? Here I'll revert a little bit to the defence perspective. In terms of some of the work that we are doing through NATO, Canada is co-leading with Germany and the United Kingdom an effort on command and control and computers. We're putting quite a bit of money into that. This is a place where you can deal with the cyber-threat quite explicitly. Also, in our training, we are making people conscious of that threat, just as our trainers are conscious of that threat.
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I'm sorry to go over.