Yes. There's no question that.... There's a long history in Europe of trying to create their own collective security mechanisms, and it has largely failed and is not very successful over the long term, while NATO, of course, has been a more enduring force. Obviously, I think there is some concern that there has been a major shift in the United States. It has been the glue and one of the key actors to keep NATO together. In the absence of U.S. leadership, do they have to look at other options? I think we're going to see more of these types of moves going forward. I think that's why it's especially important to recommit to NATO to try to galvanize resources to ensure the long-term relevance of NATO.
Let me take a step back about Magnitsky. I'm very supportive of dialogue, but I do differ slightly in that I do think there is a role for sanctions. I think what we've see in terms of the Magnitsky Act.... Look at the United States. We've seen that Russia has reacted perhaps most vociferously against the Magnitsky sanctions, whether that's in the United States or even here, so I think there is potential—