Evidence of meeting #1 for National Defence in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.

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Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michael MacPherson

4:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

That sounds good.

Is there any further debate on Ms. Vandenbeld's motion?

(Motion agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:35 p.m.

The Clerk

Could I just intervene for a second? I'm going to have to minute this. The motion we are adopting would be Mr. Garrison's motion with regard to inviting the ambassador for women, peace and security. We're going to consider that adopted.

The motion that Mr. Bezan had put forward was for three meetings—a very small study, I guess—on the COVID-19 impact on the Canadian Armed Forces. Was it just an initial briefing on that subject matter? Is that what we're agreeing to?

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Anita Vandenbeld Liberal Ottawa West—Nepean, ON

That was my understanding.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

I would accept that as being part of the study that we're going to undertake on the second motion—that national briefing. It comes down to you, as chair, and us as the committee to organize our work, but I would still like it to refer to the second motion. That briefing would be just the first step in how...everything from Operation Laser work to withdrawing forces from international deployments.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

I think we understand now.

Mr. Clerk, are you good now?

4:40 p.m.

The Clerk

Just to maintain my own sanity in trying to corral all of this, I'm going to take the other motions that have been submitted and, with the permission of the members present, I could insert them into the minutes as notices of motion. I would then refer to those notices of motion as being referred to the steering committee. Is this the understanding?

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Yes.

Mr. Bezan.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Madam Chair, I'm good with that direction.

I know that Mr. Spengemann is bringing forward another motion, and I have one other motion on military justice to present. Do we present them here, or do you prefer that we go ahead and submit those for study at the subcommittee?

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

That's a really good point, Mr. Bezan.

I wanted to give everybody who did not come with a motion ready to be tabled today a chance to bring a motion forward.

Mike, what is the time frame? What do people think is reasonable? Would it be two or three days, to have it to the clerk if it's to be included in the submission to the subcommittee? It's Wednesday, so that would be by the end of the day on Friday.

If you have any other motions that have not yet been submitted, you can submit them to the clerk by the end of day on Friday. They will then be included in this as a notice of motion to go to the steering committee.

4:40 p.m.

The Clerk

Just a point of clarification, anything that comes after today won't be in the minutes as being referred to the subcommittee today. That does not curtail any other motion from being brought forward at the steering committee.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

I copy that.

Mr. Bezan.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

I'll just give a notice of motion on this, then, and we'll circulate it to the committee: That the committee undertake a study on the military justice system in the Canadian Armed Forces, that the study be composed of no fewer than seven meetings, that the findings be reported to the House and that the government table a comprehensive response.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Did you submit that one to the clerk already?

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

We will submit it right now.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Okay, copy that. Thank you very much.

Mr. Spengemann, go ahead.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Sven Spengemann Liberal Mississauga—Lakeshore, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you for that constructive direction to send motions in for consideration.

I'd like to put forward a notice of motion for a study on extremism in the Canadian Armed Forces. The motion is this: That the committee undertake a study of no fewer than four meetings studying the prevalence of white supremacy, racism and discrimination within the Canadian Armed Forces and the impact on Canadian Forces recruitment, morale, and operational effectiveness, and recommend actions to combat, minimize, and eliminate them, and that the report be presented to the House.

Madam Chair, I will forward this motion in writing to the clerk by end of day.

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Thank you very much, Mr. Spengemann.

Are there any further questions?

Mr. Bagnell.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Larry Bagnell Liberal Yukon, YT

This is just an information notice that I'll be submitting to the clerk. On the motion by Mr. Bezan on NORAD, we had agreed to a northern dimension of that in the last committee, so I'll be submitting exactly the same wording that we all agreed to last time.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Times change, Larry; times change.

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

I think we have a good way forward here. I want to thank you all. There certainly was a spirit of collaboration and working together, and we have some really important work to do here. I really want to thank you all for being so considerate and for working together with your colleagues. We'll get to work next week.

Thank you very much. I hereby adjourn this meeting.