Evidence of meeting #1 for National Defence in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Michael MacPherson

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Is there any further debate on this amendment?

(Amendment agreed to)

We will go back to the main motion. The entirety of the amendment is “including two members of the opposition and two members of the government”.

Are all in favour of the motion as amended?

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

Thank you very much.

We will move on to number four.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Thank you, Madam Chair.

The motion states:

That the witnesses be given ten (10) minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six (6) minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Round 1: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party. For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party: 5 minutes, Liberal Party: 5 minutes, Conservative Party: 5 minutes, Liberal Party: 5 minutes, Bloc Québécois: 2.5 minutes, New Democratic Party: 2.5 minutes.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

We have the motion. Does anybody want to debate it or make an intervention at this time?

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

I have a question.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Go ahead.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Are these particular sets of rules that we're agreeing upon now applicable just while Parliament is in this state of virtual reality? When we return to full in-person meetings, will these remain the same?

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Mr. Clerk.

3:50 p.m.

The Clerk

These routine motions would be in effect for the entire session. When the pandemic is over, the committee could always revisit any routine motions and adjust them whenever they see fit.

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Renfrew—Nipissing—Pembroke, ON

Thank you.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

All right. Is there further discussion on this motion?

October 14th, 2020 / 3:50 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Madam Chair, I've had the “raise hand” function on.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Okay, thank you. Go ahead.

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

I'd like to propose an amendment to this routine motion.

I'd like to move that the routine motion be amended to replace the text regarding the second round of questioning with the following: “For the second round and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party: 5 minutes, Liberal Party: 5 minutes, Bloc Québécois: 2.5 minutes, New Democratic Party: 2.5 minutes, Conservative Party: 5 minutes, Liberal Party: 5 minutes.”

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

I register that amendment.

Are there any discussion points on the amendment?

3:50 p.m.

NDP

Randall Garrison NDP Esquimalt—Saanich—Sooke, BC

Madam Chair, again, I have the raised hand, but that's not working too well, so I won't do it that way.

I did ask that the clerk circulate this in advance, so I hope people can see the text. I'm not sure that happened.

What this does is make sure that we have diverse voices in each of the rounds as we go through. The way things tend to work is that the Bloc tends to get dropped out of the second round completely by the timing. That's my reason for proposing this motion.

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

All right. Is there any other debate?

(Amendment agreed to)

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We'll move on to number five.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

The motion states:

That only the clerk of the committee be authorized to distribute documents to members of the committee and only when such documents exist in both official languages, and that witnesses be advised accordingly.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Is there any debate?

(Motion agreed to)

Next is motion six.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

This motion is about working meals:

That the clerk of the committee be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the committee and its subcommittees.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Is there any debate?

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

I'd like to move an amendment.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Go ahead, Mr. Bezan.

3:55 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

Because we are working mainly virtually and there will be some members who may or may not be in attendance physically when they're in Ottawa, I would like to add at the end of that motion “provided that members have confirmed their physical presence for the meeting”, so that we're not ordering extra food.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Karen McCrimmon

Is there any further discussion on the proposed amendment?

(Amendment agreed to)

(Motion as amended agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

We move on to number seven.

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Thank you, Chair.

This motion is under the heading “Travel, Accommodation and Living Expenses of Witnesses”. It states:

That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses, not exceeding two representatives per organization; and that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the chair.