Let me try to work backwards through that, Madam Chair.
As I said in my opening statement, and as the member and I have discussed over the course of this committee hearing, this is a systemic problem or challenge for us all that dates back, unfortunately, to long before our government came to power. It is one that our government, as I established with one of the other members, has been trying to tackle since we first got into government, although, as we also have already established, much more needs to be done, and much more quickly.
To your point around Minister Sajjan, if I can address that, he was faced with this unusual circumstance, and his first instinct was to seek advice. The advice that we got from the appropriate officials was to redirect the ombudsperson to the Privy Council Office. I don't what else could have been done.