It's hard for me to answer, because I believe that, simultaneous with the investments we are making to try to right ourselves, the needle keeps moving forward faster than we can get in front of it. I think we have tremendous capability within the country, from an industrial perspective on the cyber side, and that we have incredible competency within our agencies—CSIS and the CSE—as well as the building of cyber-command under the Department of National Defence. I see those as all positive steps forward.
The question is really how a democratic country with a talent shortage and a funding shortage would match with a country that is a dictatorship and that has innumerable and exponential amounts of money to pour into this particular area. We will always, I think, be chasing our tail in some way, unless we come together more as allies with our allied partners, like we do under Five Eyes, to try to get ahead of it.
They're all good steps; it's just that by nature, I think, we will always be playing catch-up.