We have our salary wage envelopes at National Defence. That is money the department is given just to maintain their public servants. However, they also have money through the operations and maintenance budget, and they often have more money in there. It's easy for them, then, to just contract out work where they have this other pile of money, rather than going after increasing the suite to an appropriate level for what they need. Then you end up in situations—just like the previous speaker was commenting on—where you have these massive shortfalls at the workplace and you become very reliant on contractors to pick up the work that needs to be done.
That doesn't always work. In fact, that rarely ever works. It certainly is not the most cost-effective way of doing it. We usually end up having to pay more money, and we're not getting the services we need and certainly not when we need them.