I think you have to have a very wide concept of what fighting readiness means, because someone in SOFCOM and someone in logistics don't necessarily need the same skill sets. When you want to recruit the best and the brightest cyber-soldiers, you don't necessarily want to recruit someone who's right out of high school, but someone who has demonstrated their strengths and capacities later in their career and who's working in the private sector and has access to all of this talent.
We are losing the talent game on cyber in a very big way, but there are remedies to this. Whether it's creating external hubs.... We see it in Russia all the time. It's not necessarily people who are working for the government, but working in parallel institutions. Whether or not we want to create this kind of setup or something a bit more directly within the armed forces, we still need to completely rethink how we're doing recruitment for this kind of skill set. It's something that you can't just take for granted.
This is a larger problem with the Canadian Armed Forces. We imagine people with this 30- or 40-year career plan, and we think we can take anyone who's very young and we'll train them to wherever we need to take them. The reality is we can't think that way—