Well, one, obviously, is trade and economic development. Taiwan is a tough negotiator, but there are lots of opportunities. When I was there we had a very vibrant cultural program. We had artists coming from across Canada sharing Canadian ideas with a very big program on indigenous co-operation. The new government in Taiwan was rediscovering the fact that there's a very vibrant indigenous culture in Taiwan that had been ignored, and we brought groups from Canada and Taiwan together. Also, people to people, there are a lot of people of Taiwanese origin. There are all kinds of things we should be doing with Taiwan, and we would do with Taiwan, if it were seen as any other place. It's just that we have self-censored, and this is the effect that I spoke of earlier. China so intimidates you that it gets you to stop well before any red lines it might have.
On February 2nd, 2022. See this statement in context.