Mr. Mulroney, you were talking a lot about China pushing as hard as they wanted to and really working on that ability to make those around the world fall into that defeatist sort of category, defeating them before they even put their minds to working against that Chinese objective.
There is the recent example of Lithuania, where they tried to ally themselves with Taiwan and were entirely cut off. Canada is showing support, of course, of Taiwan, in some ways, but I don't believe we are doing so in all the ways we could. The HMCS Winnipeg, for example, is going through the Taiwan Strait.
What do acts like that show China? We've called for greater supports for those trying to flee Taiwan, for activists as well as those from Hong Kong. What type of reaction would we get to a further push on China? Do you think they would do something to Canada as exacting as they did to Lithuania?
That's for both witnesses, please.