No, because in this particular circumstance, the Red Cross can't cut wood. They could, however, register people who don't have electricity and provide them with immediate financial assistance better than the forces could. It depends on the particular function.
I don't think it's a question of trust, to go back to your earlier way of putting it. I think they haven't used them as much as they could have because they didn't have to. Disasters are occurring much more frequently now, and I think it's forcing everybody to think, “Oh my God.”
If you ask both the military and the Red Cross, for example, who did what during COVID—and not just the military, if you ask PHAC, the Public Health Agency of Canada—I think you will find that they found the services of the Red Cross met the standard they were trying to set without any great difficulty.
Again, like everything else, you need to plan, you need to exercise and you need to agree on who does what with whom. We're getting there slowly, because we're having to deal with it time after time. I'm a believer, as I was saying, of earlier planning making a big difference on the ground. That's what we're not doing enough of, I think.