Yes. I had signalled to you that this is a very difficult question. It's talking about culture change and so on.
There is, in my report, a reference to existing groups—I forget because I haven't looked at it very recently—that represent LGBT groups. I think there are indigenous groups. There are several women's groups. They should be empowered, and not just by decree. Every time there's a high-ranking visit on a site, the commanding officer should be seen with these people. These are real change-makers from the inside—I'm not talking now about oxygen from the outside. The driving forces, the positive forces inside CAF can be enhanced by giving them the floor and giving them visibility, credibility and so on, and then by modernizing the education system and the training system and speaking truly about diversity—not just “diversity and inclusion are a good thing”.
It's a challenge in an organization that is based on uniformity to make space for those who speak in a different voice. It's very challenging.