Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to both of our witnesses today.
For me, it's more a question of.... Currently they're in Ukraine. I understand that he wants it extremely badly. He's doing whatever he can and threatening whomever he can so that there's no external involvement.
Would you say that this is also an effort to destabilize Europe in general and NATO? What is the likelihood that if he were to conquer Ukraine, he would go into Poland or an actual NATO country to see whether or not NATO would react if he is threatening nuclear responses?