There are three weight classes in the Five Eyes, as a function just of the size of the GDPs and the size of the countries. I think it's fair [Technical difficulty—Editor]. Your question would be.... Of course, we're not going to compare ourselves to the United States. Of course, we would pause at comparing ourselves to the United Kingdom, although we compare favourably in many places, in many ways. It has 2.3 times the size of the population of Canada, and not the same level of infrastructure issues and nuclear deterrents and all that.
I would say we absolutely compare favourably to the Australians; and clearly New Zealand, as a country of four-point-something million, would not compare itself to Australia or Canada. We still have the same range of capabilities and the same capacities, notwithstanding a lot of the hyperbole around AUKUS.