Evidence of meeting #87 for National Defence in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was russia.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Excellency Yuliya Kovaliv  Ambassador of Ukraine to Canada
Howard Shatz  Senior Economist, RAND Corporation
Ihor Michalchyshyn  Executive Director, Ukrainian Canadian Congress
Orest Zakydalsky  Senior Policy Advisor, Ukrainian Canadian Congress
David Perry  President and Senior Analyst, Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Hilary Smyth

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Mr. Shatz is an American and probably not in any position to comment on that.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

Okay. I'm sorry about that.

I'm going to ask our Canadian friends, and I'll continue.

There was another aspect of it that I think, since 2015, we've been supporting, and I hear only good things about Operation Unifier. There was funding to reinforce Canada's support for Ukraine, and that meant $58.4 million as we—

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

James Bezan Conservative Selkirk—Interlake—Eastman, MB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

Just for the record, in 2015, on the estimates that came forward, the Liberals voted against Operation Unifier.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

Darren Fisher Liberal Dartmouth—Cole Harbour, NS

You're not allowed to say that in committee.

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An hon. member

That's according to you.

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An hon. member

He already ruled—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Again, I—

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An hon. member

Now it's all over.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Order.

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An hon. member

You pick your set of rules, and I'll play by them. You'd get mayhem pretty quickly.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Order.

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An hon. member

But you guys haven't supported it.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Order!

You may continue, Mrs. Lalonde.

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Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

Thank you very much. It's interesting to see the double standard in this committee.

I'm going to ask again: The funding to reinforce Canada's support for Ukraine through Operation Unifier, through which over 38,000 Ukrainians have had the benefit of training from our Canadian military, is a $58.4-million allocation. Was that important or not?

5:40 p.m.

President and Senior Analyst, Canadian Global Affairs Institute

Dr. David Perry

Yes, I think the money to support Operation Unifier is important.

December 12th, 2023 / 5:40 p.m.

Senior Policy Advisor, Ukrainian Canadian Congress

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

Marie-France Lalonde Liberal Orléans, ON

I want to say thank you to all of you.

Certainly, I want to say thank you again to the UCC for its advocacy. I know that there have been difficult times, and you made reflection on Canada's involvement with the welcoming of Ukrainians who had to be displaced temporarily for this time. My heart goes out to them.

I had the pleasure of visiting some of our families who have been displaced historically in the last year, and I certainly want to say, with all due respect, that Canada stands with them and that we will continue to.

Thank you.

5:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal John McKay

Thank you.

That brings our time together to an end.

I want to thank all the witnesses for their contributions and their patience with the way this place works around here.

With that, the meeting is adjourned.