From a procurement framework point of view and from the point of view of the defence industrial strategy, it's really good and welcome to see a focus on R and D investment. I think this is one of the pillars of the defence industrial strategy.
However, to be quite frank, I think Canada is starting from afar. If you look at the U.S. as an example, 15% of its defence investments are going to R and D and innovation. They have programs like DARPA, DIU and others where they are working very closely with the industry upstream to develop the next generation of technologies.
In Canada, with our procurement system and procuring innovation, we don't have the risk-taking culture or the processes in place to really work much more upstream with the industry in the back-and-forth way that I think you were alluding to. It's a building-block approach. There is more trial and error as well, instead of the traditional way, which is where the government and armed forces come up with very defined requirements and then do an RFP.