And that's where I say you have to set the right business environment. But it's not for me to say what that business environment is.
What I'm saying is that technologically it can be done. To cite wind as an alternative...I've given you the kinds of numbers and the scale you would need. You can't believe the thousands and thousands of acres that would have to be covered with wind farms just to get to a million barrels. If we're going to get to five million barrels, it's absolutely....
I'm a strong supporter of alternate and renewable resources. We need to bring them on as fast as possible. But you cannot replace a million barrels a day with a wind farm in the next 20 years. Commercially, there are barriers to that. You won't buy the turbines. You'll need to duplicate the total world production of wind energy to do that. Over what period of time? In the meantime, what are we going to do with the declining oil?
It's about wedges and it's about transitions. We have oil sands that will decline gradually as we enter 2050 and beyond when we then see wind and renewables reliably taking over. I'm absolutely in support of that, and I think--