We have a multitude of spin-offs, as well, from NRC, particularly in the ICT area, and now have the one I mentioned on measuring leakage out of pipes. There's a large number of them. We're talking about a few coming out in the area of fuel cells, and stuff like that. So we've licensed a lot of technologies out to companies.
There's a variety of things we do, really, but the main thing is that NRC is not in basic research. While we work on discoveries, because those actually keep us excellent in research and abreast of what's going on around the world in research, and we work with universities on those, most of our work is in the applied area, where we really have to have something tangible in the end to give somebody.