Excuse me, Ms. Kuyek.
I'm sure this would develop into a fascinating debate, and if members of the committee want to pursue that in their questioning, they're at liberty to do so.
I didn't mean to cut you off, but you all had an opportunity to present cases, and the committee will then ask questions. Again, I'm sorry we don't have more time to get into this sort of debate and perhaps even allow Ms. Kuyek to respond to you, but hopefully that will come up during the questions.
We are going to go to questions now. We've established a round of questioning, and we'll try to give five minutes to each side so we get through this. I will try to keep close to it, so we can get everybody on by 1 p.m.
We'll begin the questioning with Mr. Cullen.