Yes, I agree, but--and I say this humbly--some of it's directed to the pulp and paper industry that exists in Asia and China and South America. It doesn't exist in North America as it did. I believe now it has to be a biofuel, biofibre industry. We are not--and no one is--a leader in that yet, but we should be, because we have the best fibre in the world to get us there, and then we can export that technology.
Finland doesn't export paper so much as the paper machines and the technology. They are six million people, and we all buy from them.